Kaythi Win brings the house down at the AWID Forum
Video courtesy of Dale at APNSW.
The Association of Women in Development Forum is currently taking place in Turkey. In a speech of quiet intensity Kaythi Win delivered a plenary that got 80% of the 2000 feminists in the audience on their feet in support of sex workers rights. Her speech in full follows.
The AWID website reported on the plenary:
Kaythi Win, founder of Top, a national sex workers HIV program in Myanmar, framed sex work as work and explained, “when a woman decides to engage in sex work, she is making a decision to empower herself economically.” An image in the background conveyed the double meaning of the slogan “my body is my business!” Win explained that while many assume that sex workers need to be rescued, they are not victims. She asked, “who pays whom?” and stated that sex workers live less in fear of clients than of state and anti-trafficking groups that raid and rescue them. These interventions limit sex workers’ choices and violate their rights. Asked by the moderator for a call for solidarity, Win remarked “nothing for us without us.”
Forum participants have been exploring how economic power is impacting on women and the planet and sex workers have been in interacting in many of the sessions, running a networking zone and facilitating panels and interactive skills building events.
The full version of Kaythi’s speech is available below:
In your introductions can you name: defining characteristics of the context you are working in; the key demands or aspirations of your organizing; who is involved/key constituency in your work. Also, we would love to hear if there is a key movement/event of your life that drive you to do the work you do within this context.
I am Kaythi Win from Myanmar and I am a sex worker. I manage a national organisation for female, male & transgender sex workers in Burma & I am also the chairperson of the Asia Pacific Network of Sex Workers. Until now, organizing anything in Myanmar has been very difficult. And people ask, “how did you set up a national programme for sex workers?” And my answer to them is “Our work is illegal. Every night we manage to earn money without getting arrested by the police. We used to work and organize together, so we use this knowledge in order to work out how we can set up the National Network without making the government angry”.
This topic is about transforming economic power. I want to say to you, that when a woman makes the decision to sell sex, she has already made the decision to empower herself economically. What we do in organising sex workers, is we build on the power that the sex worker has already taken for herself - the decision to not be poor.
Like other workers, we gain more economic power by organising collectively and demanding our rights.
The key demand of the sex worker’s movement in Burma, in Asia and all around the world is simple. We demand that sex work is recognised as work.
But we have one OTHER key demand, specific to certain parts of the women’s movement.
We demand that we are not treated as victims. Sex work is work! Sex work by definition, is NOT trafficking. Treat us as workers and not as passive victims.
For me and for sex workers movement in Myanmar, the thing that changed us the most and inspired us is to meet other sex worker activists and to become part of the broader sex workers rights movement through APNSW.
We organized for members of APNSW to come to do a workshop in Myanmar and we met other sex worker activists and learned about how they organised and how they can do things for themselves.
Until then we thought that we would be led by and learn from non sex worker experts in other NGOs. But what we learned and what made the change was that we realised, that instead of having to do what other people told us, we could do it ourselves and become more powerful by being part of a regional and global movement for sex workers rights.
What are some of the concrete methods or strategies you're using to organize that have been particularly effective in confronting economic power?
Many people always assume that sex workers have less power than our customers. They assume that because customers are men they have all the power. But who pays who?
Who makes the money?
It is sex workers who make money. And by understanding men and what it is they want from us, we usually end up walking away from them with more money than they agreed to give us at the beginning.
Also people do not realise that many customers become our good friends and they keep supporting us.
It is this same skill we use when dealing with government or dealing with donors.
We have learned to work out what it is that the donors want from us, or what it is the national government or district officials expect from us.
We then frame what we need in ways that will help them to do what it is that they need to do.
SO in building our movement we build the confidence of sex workers to use the skills they have already learned.
What kind of support and solidarity you would like to ask/get from other social movements, including women's rights and feminists and why?
We get a lot of quiet support from most of the women’s movement.
But we face daily attacks from a small fringe group who have hijacked the whole debate on sex work by defining all sex work as trafficking .and claiming to speak for all of YOU - claiming that “real feminists” all oppose prostitution and that “real feminists’ all know that sex work is not work.
They say that women like me are all victims.
They tell you that there is some pimp or madam who has told me what to say.
They tell you that.some man who works for an “international sex trafficking and pornography syndicate” will beat me or violently rape me if I do not do what I am told.
So, let’s talk about attacks and violence against sex workers.
And when I say attacks on sex work, I don’t just mean verbal attacks, or debate within a movement.
I mean real violence on a daily basis against women like me.
Do you know that sex workers do not live in fear of violent clients?
We live in daily fear of being “rescued”.
The violence happens when feminist rescue organisations work with the police who break into our work places and beat us, rape us and kidnap our children in order to save us.
As a movement, feminism is meant to believe in agency. Even oppressed women in sex work can make choices. But we cannot chose not to be saved when a policeman or police women has a gun pointed at our head.
What we need is for the mainstream women’s movement to not just silently support our struggle but to speak up and speak out against the extremists who have turned the important movement against real trafficking into a violent war against sex workers.
I ask that you all to stand with sex workers.
We ask you to TALK with sex workers.
It’s time for the silent majority of feminists to stand with us and say:
Sex work is work!